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I think a lot of the "hate" has to do with health care and taxes.

Have an article from the only right-winger I know personally:
http://www.dankennedypolitics.com/fromthosewonderfulfolks.pdf</p>

I can only assume that the Murdoch and his brethren (the Kochs, etc) think similarly and are thus motivated to fight Obama by any means; and without these guys, the "tea party movement" would most likely still be an extremist club consisting of a few dozen rednecks.

They don't have real grass at your school?

From my view, it's ideology over pragmatism. Sometimes you see values being spread for personal gain, or gain for the beneficiaries involved, but a lot of this is based on a semi-religious concept of value and free enterprise that somehow lead to America becoming the superpower it is.

The concept is this:
If I start a new business and make $300,000, this money is what I just created, because I offer some kind of product or service in exchange. If I take it and leave, you'd be at no loss, unless I tricked you into buying worthless crap. If I make $300,000,000, same deal. But when I make 300 million, I have to pay a lot more taxes, so these evil liberals punish me for creating more wealth and I'll cry and go somewhere else with lower taxes.

You can expand it to the point where Carnegie and Morgan created the American economy, and without them you would still look like Afghanistan, but that's a bit overly randish, even for people on the far right.

The nice thing about it is that it's not "might makes right", but "if you like this, you like freedom", and you need to frame it that way if you want the poorest of the poor to support you, instead of fighting you.

He's used as a symbol for everything Republicans can't stand. They have to attack him in order to get their point across, all the while manipulating him to push their agenda.

It's twisted.

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This is what wingnuts do. They viciously attacked Clinton's daughter. They accused him of smuggling coke through Mena. They accused him of murdering Vince Foster. Why? Because he was a Democrat.

Nothing out of the ordinary for the reptilian brained American.

This is simply what they do.

The office of the President does not have the power to make his opponents behave in good faith and honestly. Liberals need to understand that.

Oh yes, the clever real estate scam the Clintons pulled off where they lost money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy</p>

Entry should be called "Whitewater Manufactroversy" but whatever.

I somewhat agree, advancedatheist. I whole heartedly dislike the guy for having no balls.

I don't know how you can defend a guy who doesn't live up to many of his promises. He's done some good things, but any president would get some things done.

The only thing I'll throw Obama's way is he's only been in office two years. Let's see where he's at in 2012.

@AMH,

Because I understand how the executive branch actually functions?

Folks spent the Bush years bitching that the President thought he was all powerful.

Now folks spend the Obama years bitching that the President isn't all powerful enough.

I think some folks just like to bitch.

This is not a fucking sports match bro.

If you don't like it you can get out! I use that now when talking to people who used it then, but now complain about the President.

Compromising is a bit different than being a door mat. Again though, maybe things will get better by 2012.

It's important to keep in mind that one man doesn't run the show.