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Here we go with that missing page bug again.

An example of why I say doormat is when he allowed the public option to be taken out of the health care bill. Granted, he is not the one who decides whether it's in or not. However, I don't feel like he made enough of a stink about the republicans trying to maintain the private monopoly. I think he became desperate to give American results and ended up sacrificing any real change in the process.

The GOP did a much better job of portraying Obama as a bad guy than vice versa. Who won?

When I say allow, I mean without putting up much of a verbal fight.

Plus, his party had the majority. Why did the minority get their way?

Whatever fighting he did failed.

The point is I'd like to see him get up and say something bad about republicans to the American people. He started saying a few things about a week before the elections... good work, Barry!

You're entitled to that opinion

that's fact not opinion

Yes, it's not his style. And it's screwed over liberals and given the GOP all the leverage in the world.

I'm a liberal and I think he's doing fine. I don't give a shit whether moonbats got screwed over.

No, its not because it wasn't up to him that it would be included. You just said that yourself, man. What the hell.

And Edward swoops down with rationality and obliterates this stupid train of thought as it rightly deserves.

Nice straw man.

It's not a straw man. Your claim is that you can't call Obama's fight for a public option (part of his change) to be a failure because he doesn't make such decisions. So, you're basically saying that he can say whatever he wants, and we can't call him out on it because the system will do what it does.

The only reason people hold Obama up to his change message is because it's a way to get at him for not being able to change the entire country in the first year of a four year term.

It's because his whole campaign was built on "yes we can" and "change".

I would respect him if he got on TV and used the failure to get a public option in his favor. Instead, the Republicans not only denied change but also stepped up and stole the House from his party. I feel like he was too passive and kind towards the GOP.

For being such a powerful speaker, he was far too quiet.

I'll do it.

Did you actually read this thread?