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Eric | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 17:02 |
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Oooh baby, baby, baby, baby, ... EEE baby, baby, baby. Level: 1 CS Original | For some background information on this post, please read this this thread: http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/oh-hi-vtv</p> I know that the Boston Tea Party is small and that there are plenty of critics even on this web site of it, but I have one simple question for you: do you want to be taken seriously? You have a guy in your midst named VTV who has jumped from group to group leaving nothing but annoyed people and wasted time in his wake. These days he mostly is involved with The Zeitgeist Movement (TZM), but recently he's run for office within your group. What's more is that he got members of TZM to join your site for the sole purpose of voting him, which seems a bit odd, doesn't it? That incident in of itself shows how he doesn't take your group seriously. The biggest issue here, however, is that he leads the so-called "RBE caucus" within BTP. I can't be the only person to notice the irony here. How is this any different from a Marxist caucus in the Libertarian Party? The ideologies are completely incompatible, yet not only do you allow this guy to essentially cheat in an election, but to promote ideas that are contrary to the very core of your party. He uses posts like this one on your site in an attempt to drum up support against us, not because he loves the Free Market, but simply because he doesn't like us. He's a member of this site and has had long discussions here, the idea he "found" us is ridiculous, he's been watching us and posting here for a long time. What more can be said about this? Surely you can see he's attempting to take advantage of you. I am not a member of BTP or TZM, no do I support either organization, but this situation is so incredibly stupid that I had to say something and point out the obvious. -- I think that some members here have membership there, if you'd post a link to this thread on VTV's topic about this site, I'd appreciate it. | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 17:13 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | If any Boston Tea Partiers actually come to this forum, frankly I'd rather engage with them on substantive grounds instead of arguing about VTV, who I really don't care about. For example, I would imagine that most BTP people would dispute our conclusion that Obama actually was born in the United States... ...or that global warming is happening and is caused primarily by humans. If we're going to argue with BTP folks, let's argue about the conspiracy theories that I suspect some (if not many) of them probably believe in. | |||||
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CyborgJesus | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 17:17 |
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The Burger King | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 17:30 |
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me? Level: 5 CS Original | LOL | |||||
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The Burger King | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 18:13 |
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me? Level: 5 CS Original | This is coming from Neil Kiernan Stephenson aka VTV, a high school drop out... What a loser | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 18:30 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original |
OK well lets list those forums shall we? His LARP forum : http://kanartalk3306.yuku.com/topic/2397?page=2 Accused of cheating, lying, fraudulant behavior, arguments, creating multiple accounts on the forum [Liz] Ron Paul Forum : http://ns2.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=154945&page=7 Plus he was banned from there after arguing and causing all manner of chaos with his VTV alias I believe. But now he's recruiting them to come here and spam CS with stuff: | |||||
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The Burger King | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 18:46 |
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me? Level: 5 CS Original | He created a sock puppet account called Liz on CS board and continues to deny that it was him posting on that account... Wonder if anybody will ask him about that on the teabag forum and would he deny it or not answer it at all or make a suckpuppet account and deny it =P | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 18:53 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | If you search Facebook with the email for the account that Liz is under: Leveer@gmail.com you get none other than: http://www.facebook.com/search/?flt=1&q=Leveer%40gmail.com&o=2048 http://www.facebook.com/neil.kiernan1?ref=search Great hiding work. | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 19:00 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | He just lies and gets busted wide open every time, I would hate to be Neil Kiernan Stephenson. | |||||
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CyborgJesus | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 19:01 |
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Level: 6 CS Original | It's crazy how far you go from "Let's discuss this" to "You don't warrant a waste of my time". | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 19:06 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | I don't understand why he does this to himself. Why did he even make that blog entry? Supposedly he has renounced all his Paultard beliefs and now believes in a moneyless TVP future. | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 19:07 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | @Pir-edJesus That's because he is out of his depth man, he would be publicly embarassed and shown for the scandalous 2 bit charlatan he is, no he is better off lying and avoiding anyone who can make him look dumb, and calling in others to do his dirty work so he doesnt have to deal with being ridiculed. @Ed-umacated VTV/Liz/Leveer13/leveer silverleaf/Neil Kiernan Stephenson and various other aliases is nothing but a flip flopping self publiciser. His politics change at the drop of a hat, his religious identity changes at the drop of a hat, and likewise his worthwhile causes change in the same manner. This guy is just in it for himself and nobody else. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 19:16 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | I don't understand why he made the blog entry in the first place. It was on a topic he doesn't believe in and had nothing to do with him. And if he disagreed with it, why didn't he just do so here? He has two freakin' accounts. | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 19:26 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | He seems to be hoping to get people to bombard this forum and spam it up with arguments I suppose, I guess all the arguments he causes on zeitgeist just arent enough amusement for his narcissist worldview. | |||||
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CyborgJesus | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 19:34 |
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Level: 6 CS Original | I just realized - he is a VP supporter, VP is anarchism/technocracy/neomarxism he should basically agree with everything Edward said in that thread. So it's not even "my enemy vs. my enemy", but "my enemy vs. some guy who thinks the way I do". | |||||
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The Burger King | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 20:20 |
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me? Level: 5 CS Original | hey guys lets start a teabag party! | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 20:22 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Why does VTV accuse this forum of non stop trolling? We don't raid other forums or run around posting on detractors' sites in an organized fashion. That sounds like TZM to me. I don't even post on any forums regularly but this one. Who am I trolling nonstop besides people here? Is VTV mad because we troll ourselves? | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 20:23 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | Exactly, they like to label people trolls all the while they are trolling the places they are calling trolls :S They are so strange, they get everything wrong. | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 20:24 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | TZM invades forums when people disagree, you can see a perfect example of this by VTV's post alone, where he's trying to drum up support to get people to come here. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 20:26 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | You guys are such nonstop trolls. Gosh, stop trolling me. | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 20:31 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | Here's what one veteran Ron Paul fan had to say about this site: "those people write too much" There you have it folks. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 18, 2010 - 20:33 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Posts longer than "END THE FED" confuse Paultards. | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jul 19, 2010 - 12:02 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | bump, hilarious thread on BTP, I especially like the fact that the truther that came to the chat last night, which I missed unfortunately, posted: http://bostontea.us/node/911#comment-1</p> Here's the chat log: http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/chat-fun-1</p> Here's what he said just in case:
Apparently asking this guy to explain why the physics on 9/11 were impossible is just too much to handle. The Tea Party movement is stupid enough without truthers. | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jul 19, 2010 - 13:09 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | The Skeptical Inquiry Consortium of NONSTOP TROLLIN' | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 19, 2010 - 17:18 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Okay wow. I've been reading VTV's latest comments and for some reason he really views this place as some sort of arch nemesis bent on his destruction. I thought thought it was a message board to kill time on. He's on a crusade and is trying to unleash the power of an imaginary political party to stop Conspiracy Science. What a weird guy. | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jul 19, 2010 - 18:38 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | VTV is having a wee cry in public again :) http://bostontea.us/node/911#comment-11</p> And someone else is having a dig at him: http://bostontea.us/node/911#comment-13</p> haha i love it when VTV gets miffed on forums, I just find myself unable to keep my teeth in whilst reading. must suck to be him. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 19, 2010 - 18:45 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Why does he do this to himself? God, its like Jerry Springer. | |||||
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CyborgJesus | Posted: Jul 19, 2010 - 19:03 |
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Level: 6 CS Original | I don't get why he's even following CS, he could do so much more with his time if he focused on doing something useful. I probably could do the same, but it's pretty fun around here and I'm not jobless living in some trailer or whatever. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 19, 2010 - 19:08 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | I think he is trying to get people to invade the forums. That is his awesome revenge. He doesn't even believe in free market stuff anymore. Why is he trying to get Paultaurds to attack the forum over that? | |||||
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Sky | Posted: Jul 19, 2010 - 20:01 |
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Level: 3 CS Original | VTV is a troll-hunting keyboard warrior. | |||||
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