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Agent MattPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 13:08
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As of this morning, the official Republican line has gone from "where are the jobs" to "to hell with the jobs." As a substantive matter, that's not exactly new, but as a rhetorical matter, I didn't expect this much candor from the House Speaker.

If House Republicans succeed in cutting tens of billions of dollars in discretionary spending over the next six months, some of the most immediate victims will be federal employees, many of whose jobs will be slashed as their agencies pare back.

At a press conference in the lobby of RNC headquarters Tuesday morning, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) shrugged this off as collateral damage.

"In the last two years, under President Obama, the federal government has added 200,000 new federal jobs," Boehner said. "If some of those jobs are lost so be it. We're broke."

That's a rather extraordinary acknowledgement. Confronted with accusations that his own budget plan would kill jobs, Boehner not only conceded that the charges are correct, he went on to say he simply doesn't care.

Mark the day and time -- the House Republican leadership no longer thinks it matters if GOP policies force thousands of American workers from their jobs.

Remember, as far as Boehner is concerned, this is a feature, not a bug. The GOP plan calls for deep reductions in education, transportation, law enforcement, food safety, environmental protections, and community health centers, among many other areas. The result -- indeed, the intended result -- is to lay off thousands of teachers, police officers, medical professionals, food inspectors, etc. "So be it," Boehner said.

For Democrats hoping to prove that the GOP plan would make unemployment worse, this is manna from heaven. It's one thing to levy an accurate charge; it's another when the target of the criticism tells reporters the charges are true.

And for those who happen to take facts seriously, let's also note that Boehner has no idea what he's talking about. On a per capita basis, the federal workforce is already at its lowest level since 1962, and practically all of the recent job growth has come from the private sector, not the public sector.

Postscript: And as long as we're adding context, don't forget that Boehner thinks "we're broke," but doesn't have a problem adding the cost of tax cuts to the national debt. He freely admits he doesn't care if thousands of Americans lose their jobs, but he cares a great deal if millionaires and Exxon Mobil lose their tax breaks.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_02/028008.php

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Omni-SciencePosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 14:09
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What an asshole.

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 17:55
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Government jobs don't count as jobs created.

At the risk of sounding like a dick, I'm perfectly okay with this.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 17:56
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"Government jobs don't count as jobs created."

Tell that to people working them.

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Wolf BirdPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 17:59
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Well...my position wouldn't exist without a grant to Habitat International from Congress. So I have to agree with Matt.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 18:02
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Its easy to have such asshole-ish ideological positions when you don't have one I guess.

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 18:04
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Matt -

And Wolfy, I bet you anything I have that your job isn't going anywhere. If anything, I can see a hiring freeze happening like Reagan did when he was elected - at most.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 18:06
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Be sure to tell any military personnel they don't have real jobs Snob.

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 18:16
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You want to tell me how to shrink the size of government without cutting government jobs?

By the way bro, that's a straw man if I ever saw one. I said government jobs don't count as jobs we've created.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 18:57
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I wasn't aware the size of government needed shrunk.

So basically military jobs don't count as jobs then. They're government created.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:03
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I disagree with Snob Goblin.

You are working for the American government and its interests, in its Armed Forces sector.

Your money earned is American taxpayer money.

What part of that disqualifies it as a government job?

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:06
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"I wasn't aware the size of government needed shrunk."

After how much W blew it up? I'd say it does. You yourself said in another thread that we should cut the defense budget because W was throwing so much cash at it.

"You are working for the American government and its interests, in its Armed Forces sector.

Your money earned is American taxpayer money.

What part of that disqualifies it as a government job?"

I didn't say the military wasn't a government job. In fact, I didn't bring up the military at all. So I can't answer you.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:09
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Ah okay. I see.

Military jobs are government jobs.

What makes government jobs not real jobs?

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:11
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I never said that either, Omni.

Did you only read Matt's posts?

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Omni-SciencePosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:12
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YOU POSTED TOO SOON THAT QUESTION WAS ANSWERED ALREADY BROSEPH.

What makes government jobs not real jobs?

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:12
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I don't live in a world where saying "smaller government" means anything. Because it doesn't. Its just a right wing canard.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:13
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I think Right wingers should say "more privatization" along with "smaller government".

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:16
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"I don't live in a world where saying "smaller government" means anything. Because it doesn't. Its just a right wing canard."

Uhh...okay then.

"I think Right wingers should say "more privatization" along with "smaller government".

I can't speak for other people, but in my mind, that's implied.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:16
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AKBastardPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:21
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WOW, ONE ISOLATED INCIDENT OF A GUY GETTING SHOCKED IN THE SHOWER.

I'm so glad you linked me to this and showed me the error of ways!!! Where's the nearest boat to Cuba!?

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Omni-SciencePosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:34
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The article said it was a series of electrocution occurences.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:34
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You know what, fuck this, can we just rage at how Republicans are flat out showing their ugly heads and expecting to win?

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:35
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Yeah but how often does shit like this really happen? The fact that the article is dated back in 2008 is telling.

And they aren't winning. Not if the best they can do is Huckabee or Ron Paul.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:36
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*RAGES*

FUCK YOU GOP AND EVERY NUTTY CONSERVATIVE.

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:37
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I miss puberty.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:39
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Snob is a typical Republican. He only cares about soldiers dying when there's a Republican in the White House.

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:40
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I wasn't aware you knew me or spoke to me when a Republican was in the White House.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:41
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Thankfully.

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AKBastardPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:47
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I guess this debate is over. All I can say is I truly hope you can get your angry, hateful tendencies under control someday.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 15, 2011 - 19:49
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Project much?

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