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This guy is big in the whole Ron Paul can still win thing.

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JoePosted: May 29, 2012 - 22:05

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JoePosted: May 30, 2012 - 00:05

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This ia a web site that Ben Swann has sited and Ron Paul supporters cleam is the real deligete count. I mean whos numbers are more accurate this sites or the the medas and the RNC? Muertos I can really use your help on the one.
Edit: I don't know if this would help in sorting this out but here is the officel RNC numbers.
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JoePosted: May 30, 2012 - 08:23

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I sent an e-mail to the RNC containing these two links:
I asked what the truth about Rule 38 is and how Ben Swann is wrong. And I also asked them if the "the real 2012 delegate count" web site is accurate at all. But form the Auto Reponses e-mail it is clear that they may not be that much help in addressing these issues.
"Thank you for contacting the Republican National Committee. Our
Party���s success depends on the active participation of supporters
like you, and we are glad you took the time to write. We believe in
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Edit: I just sent a E-Mail to my state Republican party asking them these same qustions to see if they might help.
Edit, Edit: Hell with it I will just wait until the 2012 Republican National Convention like everybody else. Who ever wins that is the true nominee. Anyways thier is no reason to believe Ron Paul will win.
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JoePosted: May 30, 2012 - 14:51

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Well it looks like this Ben Swann guy and that "Real" Delegate count web site is full of shit.

From: Jesse Benton, Chief Strategist

Date: May 15, 2012

Every day, I see firsthand how humbled and encouraged Dr. Paul is to have the enthusiastic support of so many who are committed to revitalizing our country.

Let me be very clear. Dr. Paul is NOT dropping out or suspending his campaign.

As Dr. Paul has previously stated, he is in this race all the way to the Republican National Convention in Tampa this August.

And he is deeply grateful for every resource he has been entrusted with to run an historic campaign that continues to defy all expectations.

Looking ahead, our campaign must honor that trust by maximizing our resources to ensure the greatest possible impact at the National Convention.

So while our campaign is no longer investing in the remaining primary states, we will continue to run strong programs at District and State Conventions to win more delegates and alternate delegates to the National Convention.

To this end, our campaign has several positive and realistic goals:

1) Having recently WON Maine, we believe we can win several more states.
2) We will win party leadership positions at both the state and national levels.
3) We will continue to grow our already substantial total of delegates.

We will head to Tampa with a solid group of delegates. Several hundred will be bound to Dr. Paul, and several hundred more, although bound to Governor Romney or other candidates, will be Ron Paul supporters.

Unfortunately, barring something very unforeseen, our delegate total will not be strong enough to win the nomination. Governor Romney is now within 200 delegates of securing the party's nod. However, our delegates can still make a major impact at the National Convention and beyond.

All delegates will be able to vote on party rules and allow us to shape the process for future liberty candidates.

We are in an excellent position to make sure the Republican Party adds solid liberty issues to the GOP Platform, which our delegates will be directly positioned to approve. Our campaign is presently working to get several items up for consideration, including monetary policy reform, prohibitions on indefinite detention, and Internet freedom.

Finally, by sending a large, respectful, and professional delegation to Tampa, we will show the party and the country that not only is our movement growing and here to stay, but that the future belongs to us.

Dr. Paul will begin this new phase of the campaign this Friday by speaking and holding several events at the Minnesota State Convention. He has also recently accepted an invitation to speak at the Texas Convention, and we are busy scheduling appearances around other State Conventions later this month and into June.

As Dr. Paul stated in his message yesterday, this fight is NOT over. We will continue fighting and expanding, and "we will not stop until we have restored what once made America the greatest country in human history."

But for Dr. Paul's efforts in the remaining State Conventions to be successful, and to ensure we get as many Ron Paul delegates to Tampa as we can, he needs you to continue standing with him.

Along those lines, as you probably already know, the grassroots are holding a Money Bomb on Thursday, May 17. Any money raised from that Money Bomb will go toward winning delegates and finalizing our plans for Tampa.

As those plans for the National Convention come together, we will make sure all of our delegates, whether bound or unbound, get the information and aid they need.

Your support on May 17 will also help us reach more Americans with the solutions we know can restore our nation. Each person we add to our cause strengthens our movement for the critical work that awaits us beyond Tampa.

Dr. Paul, John Tate, myself, and the entire campaign staff know what incredible sacrifices have been made by each of our supporters.

Thank you for all of your hard work and your dedication to liberty. Together, we will champion Ron Paul and his message in Tampa, and we will lay the groundwork for future victories.

Jesse Benton
If Ben Swann guy and that "Real" Delegate count web site is true then why is Ron Paul's Chief Strategist say that Romney is 200 delegates away from the nomination. By the way Jesse Benton is also Ron Paul's son-in-law.
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