Skeptic Project

Because you're lazy. :P

It's ideologically driven, ignores history, ignores generally accepted rules of economics, ignores history, ignores political reality, totally at odds with any form of workable political or economic theory.

An immature and unrealistic philosophy generally embraced by male adolescents, or those who think like male adolescents. Matt said "libertarians are Republicans who smoke pot and shop at Whole Foods," and that's pretty spot-on, because there's not much more to libertarianism than that.

Ironically the insulation that libertarian ideas have from the mainstream--the fact that nobody in their right mind will ever elect a libertarian to any office of significant political power--is what keeps the ideology going. Because their ideas are too fringe to ever be voted into power, they will never be proven wrong, and supposedly this means that they've never failed (which I guess is technically true).

Didn't you make a topic like this before Omni? Muertos is right though, basically if it's a young, white male, it's safe to say they're no different from CTs in regard to Libertarianism. I'm much more interested to ask "why?" when it's a woman, non-white, or unprivileged person.

What I've never understood about Libertarians is that so many promote private business and private research, but promote organic food and talk about how bad Monsanto is. If anything Monsanto would be good, not bad.

But Jesus, you can just quit your job there or not buy products from them!

And in the words of on Libertarian Party leader (can't recall his name), but "Some children actually want to be able to work," in regard to child labor laws.

PS Post stuff in the right forum, Omni!

That doesn't sound really true, mostly because it wasn't until the late 80s that anyone even really knew who the Libertarians were. Sure they started in the 1970s, but even in the 80s and early 90s no one really cared, I guess we can blame the Internet.

Now you're called "twerps."

Q: What do you think of the Libertarian Party? [FHF: “A Nation’s Unity,” 1972]

Ayn Rand: I’d rather vote for Bob Hope, the Marx Brothers, or Jerry Lewis. I don’t think they’re as funny as Professor Hospers and the Libertarian Party. If, at a time like this, John Hospers takes ten votes away from Nixon (which I doubt he’ll do), it would be a moral crime. I don’t care about Nixon, and I care even less about Hospers. But this is no time to engage in publicity seeking, which all these crank political parties are doing. If you want to spread your ideas, do it through education. But don’t run for President—or even dogcatcher—if you’re going to help McGovern.

(Note: I'm neither a supporter of Objectivism or The LP)

Topics like this disappoint me sometimes about this forum. While I love this place and everyone here, I find threads like this a little juvenile. I'm convinced some people here hate on libertarians just to hate on them, like fanboys and the hoo-rah crowd. Nothing but shallow generalizations. No different then me saying libertarians are stone age anarchists, or liberals are collectivist communists, or conservatives are all religion zealot fascists. It's crap, that doesn't get anyone anywhere.

I'm also convinced some of you have never actually sat down and talk to real libertarians, outside of a few message boards here and there. I'm talking about real people, in the real world. Not all libertarians are Paultards, CT's, Ayn Rand flag wavers, or anarchists, nor do they all subscribe to absolutes, like no government or a hair of government. Infact, if you followed the Libertarian Party at all, you would see there's a lot of them that aren't in favor of Ron Paul.

The problem with Libertarians or the party is actually people LIKE Ron Paul. Because Ron Paul does not compromise, which many Libertarians don't like about him. If there were ever a true Libertarian in any significant power, it would be because he was willing to compromise. Like Muertos had said, it's the extremism of people like Ron Paul, or his son Rand that scares people away from Libertarianism, because that's what they see on TV, and what they know about Libertarians. The fringe group.

I'm glad this topic disappoints Genogza.

Also fuck libertardians.

Why are you glad about that, Matt?

Yes and Jeff Rense knows tons of Jews too.

Genogaza why do you hate Jews?

Who cares how libertarians are looked at? Either the ideology is sound or it isn't, regardless of whether its adherents enjoy public respect or ridicule.

lol Why do you hate freedom?

Freedom leads to people being libertardians. It must be crushed.

You care, admit it.