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Agent MattPosted: Oct 28, 2010 - 16:41
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President Obama, who has said time and again that he is in favor of civil unions over same-sex marriage, yesterday suggested that his view may "evolve."

Obama, who has drawn the ire of the LGBT community most recently by fighting to enforce Don't Ask, Don't Tell even while trying to repeal it, was grilled by Joe Sudbay of AMERICABlog during a meeting with progressive bloggers yesterday.

"I just really want to know what is your position on same-sex marriage?" Sudbay asked, according to a transcript.

"Joe, I do not intend to make big news sitting here with the five of you, as wonderful as you guys are," Obama said.

"I am a strong supporter of civil unions. As you say, I have been to this point unwilling to sign on to same-sex marriage primarily because of my understandings of the traditional definitions of marriage," he said.

But I also think you're right that attitudes evolve, including mine. And I think that it is an issue that I wrestle with and think about because I have a whole host of friends who are in gay partnerships. I have staff members who are in committed, monogamous relationships, who are raising children, who are wonderful parents.

And I care about them deeply. And so while I'm not prepared to reverse myself here, sitting in the Roosevelt Room at 3:30 in the afternoon, I think it's fair to say that it's something that I think a lot about. That's probably the best you'll do out of me today.

"The one thing I will say today is I think it's pretty clear where the trend lines are going," he added.

Obama also said his administration has a strategy for repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell during the lame-duck session of Congress this fall. And he urged the Log Cabin Republicans -- who brought the lawsuit that lead to DADT being ruled unconstitutional and whom he met with on Tuesday -- to put their energies into getting Republican "yes" votes on repeal.

"You're financing a very successful, very effective legal strategy, and yet the only really thing you need to do is make sure that we get two to five Republican votes in the Senate," he said. "And I said directly to the Log Cabin Republican who was here yesterday, I said, that can't be that hard. Get me those votes."

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MuertosPosted: Oct 29, 2010 - 00:51
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What a fricking pussy. Obama is generally pretty progressive on social issues, so I find it hard to believe that he's a stick in the mud on gay marriage on principle alone. He's being too much of a politician. Fuck him, what's right is right.

If we could legally get married I'd probably propose to my boyfriend tonight. But I live in one of those states that everyone thinks is super progressive but yet strangely we have a gay marriage ban. I figure we don't have much time left, though, before the U.S. Supreme Court declares gay marriage bans unconstitutional for all time. This is why Obama needs to be re-elected, because during his second term Scalia or Thomas will die or retire and the justice appointed in his place will be the swing vote on a blanket gay marriage decision. I'm planning on a wedding in about 2016 which isn't that far away.

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The Burger KingPosted: Oct 29, 2010 - 04:23
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KeppPosted: Oct 29, 2010 - 06:02
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I'm not gay, but did the thought ever occur to you that the video you posted might be offensive to a gay person?

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Agent MattPosted: Oct 29, 2010 - 07:27
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@Muertos,

If it were up to Obama the person I'd imagine he would say gay marriage should be allowed.

At least a President is talking about gay marriage in a positive light.

I know this probably doesn't mean much, but it means a little.

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The Burger KingPosted: Oct 29, 2010 - 12:00
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@Kepp this was not a hate crime

Long story short I support gay marriage.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Oct 29, 2010 - 15:54
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Muertos is gay? O_O Didn't see that coming....

And yes, I do support gay marriage and such.

Is there any nonreligious reason for keeping gay marriage outlawed?

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KeppPosted: Oct 29, 2010 - 15:59
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@Billll

I know your intention wasn't to make fun of gays. I'm also quite positive everyone who posts here regularly supports gay marriage.

I'm just saying it might not be funny to a gay person.

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Agent MattPosted: Oct 29, 2010 - 16:42
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@Omni-Science,

No.

But there are a lot of religious people and they vote. Politicians that would openly support gay marriage often don't simply because it would cost them elections and then nothing would get done at all.

That's simply reality.

I do think President Obama has been more promising on LGBT issues than any President before him though.

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